Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: bcstec!shuksan!major@uunet.UU.NET (Mike Schmitt) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Why need US Marines vs US Army? Message-ID: <1991Jan10.025533.3802@cbnews.att.com> Date: 10 Jan 91 02:55:33 GMT References: <1990Dec21.030119.11014@cbnews.att.com> <1991Jan7.050644.7719@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: The Boeing Co., MMST, Seattle, Wa. Lines: 45 Approved: military@att.att.com From: bcstec!shuksan!major@uunet.UU.NET (Mike Schmitt) > From: demon@desire.wright.edu > The marines are an assault force. They do not build, occupy, pacify, > mop-up, etc. As the marines in WWII used to say "first in, first out" > and "the fighting is over, bring in the army". I think we're trying to talk about substance here when we should talk about 'missions.' Marine landing forces 'live' aboard assault ships 'ready' to go in - Army units do not. However, once on the ground both Army and Marines can "build, occupy, pacify, mop-up." Both are organized, equipped, and capable of performing their specific missions. Amphibious Assault is only one of them. Yes, I would consider the Marines an 'elite' assault force. However, their basic mission, as stated, is to conduct 'land warfare in support of a maritime campaign." Don't forget, during WWII, the majority of amphibious assault landings were conducted by the Army - not the Marines. > Also, every marine unit is trained for amphibious assault and > unsupplied operation (up to 7 days I believe) where the typical army unit can > operate (my opinion, again) about 48 hours before resupply becomes necessary. While assigned to the 7th Light Infantry Divison, one of our stated missions was 'amphibious assault' - in fact, in 1982 we conducted an amphibious assault exercise (with the Marines). Our 'standard' was to be able to operate up to 10 days (troops carry 3 days of rations and ammo the rest is in the 'trains'). I, for one, am always glad to have a Marine unit nearby. mike schmitt