Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: welty@sol.crd.ge.com (richard welty) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Japanese Midway Wargame (Was Re: "Computer Models") Message-ID: <1991Jan14.011516.6904@cbnews.att.com> Date: 14 Jan 91 01:15:16 GMT References: <1990Dec19.010219.24876@cbnews.att.com> <1991Jan7.050403.7374@cbnews.att.com> <1991Jan12.011223.23612@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Followup-To: sci.military Organization: New York State Institute for Sebastian Cabot Studies Lines: 27 Approved: military@att.att.com From: welty@sol.crd.ge.com (richard welty) In article <1991Jan12.011223.23612@cbnews.att.com>, Neil Galarneau writes: * Ugaki's change of the umpire's evaluation of the * effectiveness of the U.S. land-based-bomber attack was not necessarily * blind arrogance. In the actual battle, B-17s attacked the Japanese * force on more than one occasion and failed to score a single hit! keep in mind, however, that at this point in time, there was no established combat record for b-17s against shipping, and there were a lot of people who believed that they would prove effective. secondly, there were other aircraft besides b-17s based on midway, including a few new Grumman TBF Avengers; these were ineffective during the battle due to inexperienced crews, but later in the war proved to be good torpedo bombers. the obvious question then becomes, what was Ugaki's justification for making the ruling he did? richard -- richard welty 518-387-6346, GE R&D, K1-5C39, Niskayuna, New York welty@sol.crd.ge.com ...!crdgw1!sol.crd.ge.com!welty Lewis.crd.ge.com may be leaving the network; please direct email to welty@sol.crd.ge.com in the near future -- the manglement