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From: gazit@cs.duke.EDU (Hillel Gazit)
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Subject: Re: gender roles (was: feminism & simplification)
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Date: 7 Jan 91 18:08:18 GMT
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In article <1991Jan5.142726.5081@arris.com> (Richard Shapiro) writes:
>This was my point: feminism is about understanding the gender system
>we all live with; it's not about women telling men what to do.

Would you mind to quote some feminist texts,
which were written after 1975, to prove your point?

["You Just Don't Understand" by Deborah Tannen,
 "Women's Reality" by Schaef,
 "Feminist Challenges" edited by Pateman and Gross,
 "Toward a New Psychology of Women" by Miller,
 "Feminism and Science Fiction" by Sarah Lefanu,
 "Reflections on Gender and Science" by Evelyn Fox Keller,
 "The Second Shift" by Arlie Hochschild,
 "On Being a Woman" edited by Fay Fransella and Kay Frost,
 "Gender Blending" by Holly Devor,
 "Regulating the Lives of Women" by Mimi Abramovitz
... all of these books are concerned with understanding the
gender system -- none of them "tell men what to do."  This
is but a small fraction of my library at home.  --CLT]

(Hint: what you call "understanding the gender system," I call
"suggestion a new gender system which is more oppressive
toward men than what we have now.")