Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!ora!daemon From: operator%saturn@ucselx.sdsu.edu (The Dump Daemon) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: Sexual Harrassment at the workplace Message-ID: <1991Jan7.105722.29806@ucselx.sdsu.edu> Date: 14 Jan 91 20:24:57 GMT References: <29057@usc> Sender: ambar@ora.com (Jean Marie Diaz) Organization: San Diego State University, Math Dept. Lines: 66 Approved: ambar@ora.com In article <29057@usc> mary@mizar.usc.EDU (Mary Froehlig) writes: > A couple of weeks ago, my office hired a temporary employee from a > reputable agency. Unfortunately, the guy was very odd, and we found > out that he made really inappropriate remarks to one of my student > workers. This girl is 18 (just turned) and didn't know how to respond > to his question, "so, you went to a girls' school...are you a nun or a > slut?" It is a rather widely held (albeit dubious) belief that those who attend an "all-girls" school are more likely to have devious sexual proclivities. This belief is not restricted to men, nor to criminals. Is this sexual harassment? What if another "girl" had made this statement? What were the circumstances under which he made this statement? Was it as a response to an equally offensive comment by the girl? Is her innocence presumed because she is a girl? And his guilt because he is a man? >I told him we didn't need his services anymore after this came out The recommended course of action would usually be to tell him that such comments are unacceptable in the professional environment and that any further specific complaints brought against him would be grounds for dismissal. The proper course of action should be based on a much much much much more in-depth explanation of the circumstances than the one you have provided - the one on which most of your replies will have been based. > I thought he was basically weird but harmless, but I found out that my > student worker was _afraid_ of him (that he would do her physical harm) Does the student worker's reaction fundamentally change the nature of the actions taken by the temporary employee? Would it make him less guilty, or even innocent, if she were not afraid? Is her fear of physical harm justified solely by the comment he made which you have quoted above? > and my SO, who has met this guy, has also said never to be alone at the > office if the guy says he will "stop by." That's a very strong statement. Very strong to be submitted in your posting without any supporting evidence at all. Very strong to be submitted by someone whose objectivity is questionable. > So, I'd like to know how you all would view this situation. The amount of relevant information provided in the original posting is less than ten sentences. Much of the information is vague and essentially amounts to what would rightly be considered hearsay. A situation in the workplace should be treated with the utmost professionalism and fairness. Hearsay and other unsupported accusations are intolerable (in theory). It is impossible to make a fair judgement based solely on the evidence you have given in your original posting. The career and therefore life of a human being is at stake, and it is within your power to significantly and permanently damage it. Would you choose to have your future decided by essentially anonymous and thoroughly subjective reactions to a two paragraph accusation made against you from which you had no opportunity to defend yourself? I wouldn't. -Larry