Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!mit-eddie!media-lab!minsky From: minsky@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU (Marvin Minsky) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: Minds, machines, and Godel Message-ID: <4987@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> Date: 22 Jan 91 23:30:21 GMT References: <1377@ucl-cs.uucp> Reply-To: minsky@media-lab.media.mit.edu (Marvin Minsky) Organization: MIT Media Lab, Cambridge MA Lines: 25 In article <1377@ucl-cs.uucp> G.Joly@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Gordon Joly) writes: > > "I'll show you machines can't think." > (Two of hundred pages of irrelevant mathematical autobiography) > "See, I showed you!" > >Oxbridge Professor is asked "Is that correct?". He thinks, goes away >and comes back twenty minutes later, and says to the class "Yes, it is >correct and what is more, it is obvious." He then carries on the lecture. This really happened. I was young student at harvard taking linear algebra-type course given by Hassler Whitney, the great topologist. A couple of weeks into abstract vector space theories, one student finally got the courage to speak up: "Sir, I can sorta see what's happening in 2 and 3 dimensions, but I can't get the hang on what it's like in n-dimensional space. Could you suggest a practical way to visualize this?" Whitney stared into nothingness for a very long time. Finally he faced the student again and said, "Yes. Just think of some particular n." And he continued on, as abstract as before.