Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!ucla-cs!valeria.cs.ucla.edu!wales From: wales@valeria.cs.ucla.edu (Rich Wales) Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d Subject: More on Telemate Message-ID: <1991Jan21.225514.1186@cs.ucla.edu> Date: 21 Jan 91 22:55:14 GMT References: <1991Jan18.212525.4574@uwasa.fi> Sender: news@cs.ucla.edu (Mr. News) Reply-To: wales@CS.UCLA.EDU (Rich Wales) Organization: UCLA CS Department, Los Angeles Lines: 37 Nntp-Posting-Host: valeria.cs.ucla.edu In article <1991Jan18.212525.4574@uwasa.fi> ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) gave a short review of Telemate 2.11. I tried out Telemate last week. I actually liked the dialog-box-based option stuff. But I did find a few things I didn't like as much as the corresponding features of Telix. Telemate's script language lacks some key facilities. There is no way to get the actual baud rate of the connection. Reading from the dialing directory entry currently in use is painful; although a "toolbox" script routine is provided to do this by reading the dialing directory as a text file, it doesn't give access to all the fields, it doesn't give you the "memo" field (which is stored in a separate file), and it won't work at all if you switch out of the default dialing directory. There are some problems with the VT102 emulation. It changes to "white on black" after the sequence "ESC [ m", regardless of the default color scheme. When a "scrolling region" is specified, line feeds below the scrolling region cause scrolling within the region -- a bug which also exists in Telix, but reportedly not in Procomm. And the default VT102 key map file maps backspace (both the left-arrow key and control-H) into DEL -- leaving the user with no way at all to send ^H. I pointed out these problems to the author of Telemate. He says the baud rate will be accessible in a future version of the program, via a new QUERY script function. The last I heard from him, he had not com- mitted to acknowledging the other problems as bugs in need of fixing. So, although Telemate's dialog-box structure and its ability to do local editing concurrently with an upload or download are nice, for the time being at least I plan to stick with Telix. When the next version of Telemate comes out, I might reconsider this decision. -- Rich Wales // UCLA Computer Science Department 3531 Boelter Hall // Los Angeles, CA 90024-1596 // +1 (213) 825-5683 "I could be chasing an untamed ornithoid without cause."