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From: wittmann@erb1.engr.wisc.edu (art wittmann)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans
Subject: Re: What is NDIS?
Message-ID: <296@erb1.engr.wisc.edu>
Date: 15 Jan 91 15:24:46 GMT
References: <1991Jan9.233040.13698@nntp-server.caltech.edu> <NELSON.91Jan9224628@sun.soe.clarkson.edu> <2604@excelan.COM>
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In article <2604@excelan.COM> donp@novell.com (don provan) writes:
>In article <NELSON.91Jan9224628@sun.soe.clarkson.edu> nelson@clutx.clarkson.edu (aka NELSON@CLUTX.BITNET) writes:
>>The ONLY solution to running both Novell and TCP/IP at the same time
>>is to use the packet drivers.  Of course Novell has their own solution
>>if you have more money than brains....
>
>Imagine that i were a representative of a company which sells products
>that competed with packet drivers.  Imagine that i started a paragraph
>by claiming that my product was the ONLY solution to the problem our
>competing products tried to solve.  Even if i went on to retract that
>statement in my next sentence and said, "Packet drivers also provide a
>solution, if you have more spare time than brains", i'd still be
>dangerously close to commercialism.
>
>Since you give away your packet drivers for free, i guess about the
>best we can label you with is "name caller".  But i do wish you'd keep
>your posts a little more technical and a little less political.
>

I've got to say, I've been trying to get info from novell on ODI for
some time now.  I've tried various channels, all without success.
We're interested in writing software to various specs.  We've done
some for packet drivers, and 3com has been nice enough to supply us
with alot of information on NDIS.  I had no trouble at all getting info
on either of these two specs.  ODI is a completely different story.
The only word I've heard is from a friend who works in the
industry.  According to him, I may as well not even try - unless I 
feel like barfing up $7500.00.  

When I hear numbers like that, I tend to agree with Russ' statement,
it doesn't look like ODI is a reasonable interface to which to program.
Of course I haven't even seen any technical literature, so I can't really
comment on the technical merits of ODI.  Please correct me if I'm 
wrong about pricing & let me know where I can get information on ODI
for a "reasonable" price.  


Art

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