Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!apple!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: 72077.432@compuserve.com (John R. Bruni) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Secure Phones/Cliff Stoll Message-ID: <16242@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 21 Jan 91 06:15:02 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: TELECOM Digest Lines: 35 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 11, Issue 43, Message 1 of 12 Hi, I messaged Cliff Stoll regarding the secure phones controversy and he asked me to send the following message: To the Telecom Digest Gang... I've been away from the Usenet for the past couple weeks -- on the road. I'm asking John Bruni to post this note for me, since it'll be a couple weeks before I get on the Usenet (you don't want to know what's going on!) Several people have told me that there's a discussion about a scene on page 42 of The Cuckoo's Egg: about my being called on a secure phone. The guy that I called didn't want to talk to me when I called him, but it was OK once he called me back. Here's my theory: Either, he wanted to make sure that I was a real person and not some bozo. By calling me back, he knew my phone number and knew that he could find out exactly who I was. Possibly, he has some kind of secure telephone system -- say, something that would be secure as long as it was on one network, and insecure afterwards. From what I now know, this seems unlikely; the secure telephone units (STU) systems provide end-to-end encryption but would require both of us to have STU's. Hope this clarifies things -- I'd appreciate it if someone would mail a copy of the thread to me at cliff@cfa.harvard.edu. Cheers, Cliff Stoll (visiting IBM Yorktown Research Labs) [Moderator's Note: Cliff Stoll tried to reach me by phone and left a message on my voicemail saying pretty much what he said here. I'm sorry I missed his call. PAT]