Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!newstop!eastapps!helium!db From: db@helium.East.Sun.COM (David Brownell) Newsgroups: comp.groupware Subject: "Emotions" in Group Software Message-ID: <4015@eastapps.East.Sun.COM> Date: 22 Jan 91 20:35:36 GMT References: <14533@uswat.UUCP> <20965@crg5.UUCP> <616@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca> <20995@crg5.UUCP> Sender: news@East.Sun.COM Reply-To: db@east.sun.com (David Brownell) Organization: Sun Microsystems, Billerica MA Lines: 30 In article <20995@crg5.UUCP> szabo@crg5.UUCP (Nick Szabo) writes: > Where the end product does not contain either emotions or sound/video > -- the large majority of technical work -- groupware that communicates > emotions, and for the most part sound/video capability, is not useful. I think this captures the essence of why I disagree with Nick about the role of "emotions" in the workplace. Clearly, he's not worked in an environment that's anything like those I've been in . It's only a rare minority of allegedly technical situations that don't have some person who's got some personal/emotional stake in an outcome. Those situations may not be pleasant, and it may piss the hell out of me to need to deal with someone's fear of new ideas or their irrational attachment to something that blocks progress in a direction I want to move in ... but it's a lot better to know about those things and be able to work with them than to not know about them and hence be unable to get an acceptible outcome. If our communication's been restricted to exclude those important nuances, that might increase technical content, but will (guaranteed!) reduce its overall effectiveness thereby. I'd like to dedicate this new thread to discussions like how just because people have chosen technical specialties says nothing about how truly logical and rational they are ... or maybe about how it's critical to design so-called "groupware" systems to facilitate real flesh-and-blood people who are irrational and emotional and aren't about to change just to make some bloody programmer happy! (:-) - Dave One of the Million monkeys ... see, here's my keyboard!