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From: kww@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Dr Kevin Waite)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
Subject: Re: Smalltalk Release 4
Message-ID: <7449@vanuata.cs.glasgow.ac.uk>
Date: 17 Jan 91 10:51:15 GMT
References: <7393@vanuata.cs.glasgow.ac.uk> <2941@laura.UUCP>
Organization: Computing Sci, Glasgow Univ, Scotland
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In article <2941@laura.UUCP>, atoenne@exunido.uucp (Andreas Toenne) writes:
> 
> Right. Documentation is not complete and comments are sometimes old or
> wrong. Hey! this is the first step. Do you remember 2.1 or 2.2 ?
> 
> Take X11 as a reference. GraphicsContext is almost a copy of the X11
> concepts. The color model is taken from some articles (some comments
> refer to them).
> 
> Why ? Use your platform editor and do copy/paste. I cannot imagine any
> biteditor worse than BitEditor in 2.5.
> 

I would like to thank Andreas for his comments.  However, comparing R4
documentation with that of 2.1 (which I did use) is not appropriate.  The
difference is that external documentation in the shape of the Red and Blue
books did exist to supplement that supplied with 2.1.   With 2.1 the MVC
was largely undocumented.  Just when decent texts appear describing it they
go and some more attractive but undocumented features.

I have always found one of Smalltalk's strengths to be its integrated,
complete environment.   Now I have to learn the mess of X to use its
graphics.   Personally I want to use OpenWindows as the host window
manager and (as far as I know) this does not have a graphics editor.
(Perhaps someone more knowledgeable could point me in the right 
direction).   

Kevin
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