Xref: utzoo comp.org.eff.talk:1203 misc.legal:23548 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!uunet!apctrc!drd!mark From: mark@DRD.Com (Mark Lawrence) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk,misc.legal Subject: Re: Sophistication of federal investigators Message-ID: <1991Jan14.182322.2400@DRD.Com> Date: 14 Jan 91 18:23:22 GMT References: <1991Jan10.035939.26587@ddsw1.MCS.COM> <286@kumr.UUCP> <1991Jan13.191251.28841@ddsw1.MCS.COM> Distribution: na Organization: DRD Corporation Lines: 27 karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Karl Denninger) wrote: [...] } It began with the "drug war" a few years ago. The law was perverted to allow } the seizure of "drug dealers" property, even from people who weren't charged } with a crime. Ex-Governor of Florida Bob Martinez actually sanctioned the } Volusia County Sherrif's seizure of cash from people travelling on their } roads, without warrant or probable cause, and without arresting the people } in question! THIS IS STILL GOING ON TODAY and has brought in over 2 MILLION } dollars from persons who were never charged with a crime or convicted of any } wrongdoing. [...] Case in point in Oklahama. Steven Zerifis, an owner/operator of a small tree-trimming business, was stopped by law officers while he was returning from Michigan on a combination fishing trip/equipment hunting trip (he claims). He had $7,000 in cash on him. The drug dogs reacted to a substance on the cash, which is considered sufficient evidence of intent, and the cash was siezed. It turns out that cash siezed in such transactions is turned back into general circulation without any kind of cleaning! Therefore, _anybody_ could be holding cash tainted by previous holders turned over to law agencies in legitimate (?) confiscations. At least in Oklahoma, any cash one carries could be at risk of seizure. -- mark@DRD.Com mark@jnoc.go.jp $B!J%^!<%/!!!&%m!<%l%s%9!K(B