Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!apple!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!ucivax!gateway From: buclin%CLSEPF51.bitnet@relay.eu.NET Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400 Subject: Re: Sending mail from internet to x400 networks Message-ID: <1991Jan16.100948.1@sic.epfl.ch> Date: 17 Jan 91 01:59:49 GMT References: <8321.663971302@nma> <910115165030*@MHS> Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne Lines: 44 Approved: usenet@ICS.UCI.EDU x-attn: jns X-Previously-To: comp-protocols-iso-x400@cernvax.cern.ch ReSent-From: Jerry Sweet ReSent-To: mhsnews@ICS.UCI.EDU > The only implementation independent "standard" > covering this issue, that I know about, is the RARE document > (I forgot the name) written by Ruediger Grimm and Denise Heagerty > about X.400 address notation. This document says ; Therfore I am > using it in my examples. The document also says: ADMD instead of > A and PRMD instead of P. The document reference is ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 18/WG N1042, "Recommendation for a short hand notation for X.400 address notation". It is aimed to define in implementation independant notation to help exchanging X.400 OR/addresses, like for example on business cards. The document clearly says : "The short hand notation described here is intended for communities of experienced X.400 users. When exchanging addresses with those unfamiliar with X.400 O/R-addresses, a longer self-explanatory form is more appropriate ." So, this document must not be used to make statement about X.400 user interfaces (although it could be useful to have the same notation for business cards and user interfaces). > > I am not sure what RFC 987/1148 says, but that is just a technical > mapping document, and the formats described there, is not a recommendation > intended for exchange of addresses between human beings. > RFC987 defines the mapping between RFC 822 and X.400. It your user interface (on most unix systems the sendmail/mail pair) uses RFC822 notation, then you MUST use RFC987 notation to specify your addresses. Furthermore, since on Internet, the official mail protocol is SMTP with RFC 822, it is more appropriate to show "real world example" using the defined RFC 822 mapping, which is RFC 987. In other word, on Internet, the preferred notation should be the slash (/) instead of the semi-colon (;). It also has the advantage to prevent the use of quotes around the local-part. Our users already have a lot of trouble to understand the mixture of X.400 and RFC 822, and I think it is not the time to add more confusion when giving them not accurate examples... Bertrand Buclin SWITCH Mail WG Chairman