Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!agate!ucbvax!INRIA.INRIA.FR!Yves.Devillers From: Yves.Devillers@INRIA.INRIA.FR (Yves Devillers) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: When is a link saturated? Message-ID: <9101160118.AA11954@inria.inria.fr> Date: 16 Jan 91 01:18:19 GMT References: <9101160029.AA09554@inria.inria.fr> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 37 In your previous mail you wrote: Tsui noted that priority queuing is especially useful in international networks, where bandwidth is often most expensive. Wow! That is a new one on me. Can someone explain how ordering packets (but not discarding) can save bandwidth? Assuming that the number of retransmissions aren't influenced, but merely that interactive applications observe smaller round-trip times, the total throughput should be the same... I must be missing something obvious. Can someone enlighten me (and possibly others)? -->aren't you missing the fact that when interactive users get poor reactions they complain about the network being overloaded but don't get satisfied (satisfaction being higher bandwidth to allow better interactions) since those lines are so expensive that noone has money for them On the other side giving better priority to interactive traffic ("re-ordering") makes: 1- interactive users happy (better responsiveness) 2- network manager happy (no extra penny spent) 3- bulk traffic ftp fans unhappy The total throughput is *globally* the same, not *individually* :-) Yves ---------------------------------------------------------------- Yves Devillers Internet: Yves.Devillers@inria.fr Institut National de Recherche Goodie-Oldie: ...!uunet!inria!devill en Informatique et Automatique Phone: +33 1 39 63 55 96 INRIA, Centre de Rocquencourt Fax: +33 1 39 63 53 30 BP 105, 78153 Le Chesnay CEDEX Twx: 633 097 F France.