Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!linac!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!spool2.mu.edu!uwm.edu!bionet!agate!ucbvax!proteon.com!jas From: jas@proteon.com (John A. Shriver) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: TELNET versus LAT Message-ID: <9101161700.AA19338@sonny.proteon.com> Date: 16 Jan 91 17:00:30 GMT References: <9101151656.AA04342@decpa.pa.dec.com> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 23 But could a protocol be designed that had the advantages of LAT (multiple streams in one packet, rate limiting, etc.) that ran over a network protocol (such as DECnet routing without NSP), or had adaptive timeouts? I strongly suspect that the answer would be yes. Such a protocol would eliminate the crazy jumping through hoops people are going through to try and bridge LAT across multiple media and wide area networks. I suspect at least part of the design parameters of LAT has more to do with the implementation characteristcs of DECnet under VAX/VMS than with the design of the "ultimately efficient" virtual terminal protocol. Indeed, despite implementation problems, in some ways CTERM (the DECnet virtual terminal protocol) is a better protocol, since it can dynamically switch between local and remote echo, even in a screen editor. Of course, the application has to be well written to gain the advantages of the CTERM protocol. Unfortunately, with LAT proprietary, the standards bodies won't get to learn from it in designing future protocols. It would be nice if the ISO virtual terminal protocols could have had some of these advantages.