Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!apple!sun-barr!newstop!exodus!lvs.Eng.Sun.COM!karl From: karl@lvs.Eng.Sun.COM (Karl Auerbach) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: TELNET versus LAT Message-ID: <6423@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> Date: 22 Jan 91 23:51:55 GMT References: <9101151656.AA04342@decpa.pa.dec.com> <9101161700.AA19338@sonny.proteon.com> Sender: news@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca. Lines: 18 In article <9101161700.AA19338@sonny.proteon.com> jas@proteon.com (John A. Shriver) writes: >But could a protocol be designed that had the advantages of LAT >(multiple streams in one packet, rate limiting, etc.) that ran over a >network protocol (such as DECnet routing without NSP), or had adaptive >timeouts? I strongly suspect that the answer would be yes. Yes, but -- DEC has a patent on LAT. I suspect that some of their lawyers may object to a new protocol that uses some of dally-in-hope-of-more-data techniques embedded in LAT. (Please don't flame me for DEC's patent. Personally, I think that the LAT idea wasn't novel at the time. [For example, one of the reason that municipal busses run on schedules is to get a full load of passengers. And the Nagle algorithms used in TCP/IP try to collect reasonable payloads into packets before launching them into the ether.] But I'm not at the patent office.) --karl--