Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!samsung!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ames!vsi1!zorch!mykes From: mykes@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: Commodore Research and Development. Message-ID: <1991Jan16.060939.15176@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> Date: 16 Jan 91 06:09:39 GMT References: <1991Jan9.095821.22197@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> Organization: SF-Bay Public-Access Unix Lines: 83 In article dave@exactus.UUCP (David Salas) writes: >rjc@wookumz.ai.mit.edu (Ray Cromwell) writes: > >> Tell me marc, how do you know so much about the Japanese culture and >> what American companies they respect if any. How do you know ALL >> Commodore research is 'very short-term'? You don't work for Commodore. >> How do you know what Commodore managers are thinking? Sometimes I wonder >> if you have any intelligence at all. You see one little press release on a >> promotion and some lay offs, then make BROAD SWEEPING IGNORANT conclusions >> on things you know nothing about making yourself look like a total idiot. >> Then after 3 or 4 posts telling about the new newsgroups, especially >> comp.sys.amiga.advocacy, you continue to post these messages to comp.sys.amig >> You have no idea what your talking about as shown by your 'Atari Lynx has >> Amiga custom chips' and your 'Commodore is cutting R&D' qwhen in fact, I hear >> that Andy Finkel said they just hired 3 new engineers, and layed-off no one. >> >> Please, please keep your posts out of Comp.sys.amiga and redirect your >> drivel to the appropriate group. >> > >There is something pretty sad about all this MB vs EveryAmigaProgrammer. >Nobody is listening.... MB comments go straight into the trashcan, without >any consideration at all, followed by a number of derogatory attacks on his >personal views that do nothing for the image of Commodore, nor for the >personal image of the attacker. It seems that a lot of Amiga programmers >are in a state of Paranoia that blinds them from seeing past their nose. > >It is pretty sad to see that nobody is even willing to listen to any >crticism about their beloved machine. If the Amiga IS the ultimate machine, >WHY are you all asking for more!? It is obvious that the machine needs to >catch up with new technology, and there is NOTHING wrong with admiting it, >nor about talking about it. What is a perfect operating system good for >when so many programmers out there ignore the rules anyways!? > >I love my Amigas (I have 5 of them), but I am sorry to see that you people >are more concerned about convincing the world that what we have is already >the best there is, rather than working towards making it the best there is. > >Programmers out there: your rethoric does NOT pay your rent. Users DO! And >as a USER, I don't care what kind of multitasking the amiga has, what I do >care for is that applications I use work well with it. > > > >+---------------------------------------+---------------------------------+ >| David Salas | Exactus : David Salas | >| President | Genie : EXAC-DAVE | >| Exactus Information Service | UUCP : exactus!dave | >| (707) 524-2548 @ 2400 (8N1) | Fax : (707) 524-2546 | >| (707) 524-2553 @ 9600/1400 (V32/HST) | Voice : (707) 524-2547 | >+---------------------------------------+---------------------------------+ >My views are not necesarily those of Exactus Corp or anyone else. The Amiga needs to catch up in only a few ways. But it seems to me everyone else (IBM, Apple, etc.) is trying to catch up to the Amiga in more ways. The Amiga started the Multimedia revolution and is still way ahead. Amiga is the first PC-type computer that had multitasking and virtually all software ever written for it (except for some video games) support it in a very friendly way (unlike Windows 3.0 or Multifinder) and have since day 1. The Amiga is the only box I know of (actually I know it is the only box...) that you can run Amiga, CP/M, Unix, and MS-Dos in windows on the same machine. It is also the only box that you can boot up as Amiga, Unix, or Mac. The Amiga is also the only system that you can buy for $500 and play great games on or buy for $4000 and compete favorably with some of the highest end workstations money can buy. The Amiga is the only computer you can buy a video toaster for! The areas which the Amiga has been lacking are improving very quickly. There will be a choice of 10+ 24-bit video cards within 6 months. There is networking software and hardware available from several vendors. And the biggest area that the Amiga has been lacking in has been favorable press and that is changing radically (witness the recent articles in Byte Magazine). Another big area that needs much more improvement (but none is forseeable) is in the area of the normal applications that you run on lesser computers. Of the major software developers, you won't find any Microsoft, Lotus, Ashton Tate, etc., programs for the machine. The best you can find is an older version of WordPerfect. The main reason for the lack of support is that Amiga users expect more from software than these large companies have been able to do on the lesser machines and when a plain vanilla port of a PC program runs on the Amiga, it looks pretty weak. Mykes