Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!wuarchive!uwm.edu!lll-winken!unixhub!shelby!neon!egret.Stanford.EDU!espie From: espie@egret.Stanford.EDU (Marc Espie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications Subject: Re: Mac's Microsoft Word Message-ID: <1991Jan16.194832.25881@Neon.Stanford.EDU> Date: 16 Jan 91 19:48:32 GMT References: <1991Jan15.031444.5@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> <1991Jan14.222837.20284@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> <662@tronsbox.xei.com> Sender: news@Neon.Stanford.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: LIENS, ENS, 45 rue d'Ulm, Paris (France) Lines: 53 So... TeX has no GUI, Word has one. What does this mean ? In particular, it means that you can do what you want with Word, format a document in atrocious ways while believing you're doing a great job. Nobody would be that stupid ? Well... I've seen friends use Word to produce wonderful pile of craps. It's so easy to change fonts, use a cute little format, underline things, that you VERY RAPIDLY end with a page where everything IS a special effect. You get a nice computer product, not a readable document... I don't believe I would be able to do better by myself, but I use TeX (or LaTeX, or AMSTeX, depends), and most of my stuff comes out right. There are some ``special effects'' in LaTeX, but styles have been written by people who spent a lot of time trying to ensure that everything would come out right (example: titles, subtitles, captions). IF I want to add another special effect, I've got to think about it. Mind you, I don't spend much time trying to figure out how to program it, I spend my time laying it out, finding exactly how it should look. Other case in point: TeX is a logical system. If you want to lay out a math formula, you have to say so. Because nobody told most of the guys who use Word, they fill their texts with ``n'' and other small formulas which look EXACTLY like normal text (same roman-type font) and which look awful. Also, find me a good word-processor which will lay out formulas at least as good as TeX, where I don't have to fiddle with blank spaces to get it exactly right (which means, of course, that two pages latter, I'll have to do it again, for another formula following the same logic, but NOT the same formula---you can't always use cut/paste). It is very difficult to come up with a consistent style with Word-like programs. Other case: if you want to write a big document, like a book, you're better off with TeX. If your publisher suddenly decides it would look better the other way, you spend two hours with TeX and voila ! With Word, you will have to take another week. Why do you think most scientific books published nowadays are designed with TeX or troff and not Word ? Of course, if you already know much about document-design, you will be able to do it with Word, and appreciate the interactivity. The way TeX is designed, you can't do that, but you can change your document with a few commands, and have barely any automatic mistakes to correct. So you have a choice: - you can learn TeX. - you can learn document-formatting and use Word. - you can learn neither and rely on your personal taste to produce things with Word :-):-). Marc