Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!maverick.ksu.ksu.edu!hoss!hoss.unl.edu!greg From: greg@hoss.unl.edu (Lig Lury Jr.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: ProTERM (was: Re: GS as a IIe) Message-ID: <1991Jan17.234508.8156@hoss.unl.edu> Date: 17 Jan 91 23:45:08 GMT References: <91Jan12.095717est.57485@ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca> <14361@milton.u.washington.edu> Sender: news@hoss.unl.edu (Network News Administer) Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln Lines: 78 ... dunadan@blake.u.washington.edu (Steven Owen) writes: >... GRAY@ADMIN.HumberC.ON.CA (Kelly Gray) writes: >> I have an enchanced //e running ProDOS 8 V 1.9, ProSel 8 V 4.0, and >>ProTerm V 2.1. I also have a Ramworks III card with 1 Meg of memory. I am >>using the RAMdisk driver from ProSel to set up half of my Ramworks card >>as a RAMdrive is slot 4 drive 1. ProTerm proceeds to set up a scrollback >>buffer that is considerably larger than the free space on the Ramworks >>card, so I can only conclude that it is setting up to overwrite the >>RAMdisk. ProTerm does NOT remove the RAMdisk driver, nor does it reduce >>the size of the RAMdisk to accomodate the scrollback buffer. If your RAMdisk is not full, it will compute that the free space is the total of free memory and unused RAMdisk space. If the RAMdisk is allocated completely, ProTERM will not attempt to use it. >My system is almost identical to yours, except I'm running ProDOS 1.8. I use >ProSel, ProTERM 2.1, and have my 1 MB Ramworks III configured entirely as a >RAMdisk (I use ProSel's driver and leave the RAMdisk in slot 3, drive 1 as >/RAM). And, as you point out, every time I start up ProTERM, it says I've >got 690k of scrollback space. However, since I usually keep my /RAM volume >25% full (I run a BBS, and store files in /RAM to speed things up), I would >expect that some of these files would be deleted or corrupted; especially >since, at times, my scrollback can get quite large (a routine ProTERM session >would be reading 5-6 Usenet newsgroups, and a couple of local bulletin boards). >This has never happened. That is because those files are actually taking up memory. ProTERM will not use memory taken up by files in the RAMdisk. V2.1 however WILL write over any files you save in your RAMdisk DURING a ProTERM session. Get v2.2, and this will not happen. >I can only surmise that when ProTERM sets up its scrollback buffer, it only >uses the non-occupied blocks in /RAM, or perhaps uses up memory from the "end" >of the RAMcard, moving forward as it fills up. I dunno. It's a weird beast, >and one would expect the program to be able to recognize available RAMdisk >space and use it only if it isn't already configured as a ProDOS volume. That is what it is doing. >> How can I set up ProTerm to leave the RAMdrive memory alone? The manual >>only says that Proterm will recognise either AE's ProDrive or the ProSel >>driver, but as far as I can see, it does neither. >I have yet to find a way to do this. Anybody? Anybody? (Bueller?) If you insist on using v2.1 (and I don't know why you would), take a program like Copy II Plus, ProDOS version (I use v8.2 myself, and hate v9.x) and select Verify Disk on your RAMdisk. After it scans the entire RAMdisk, run ProTERM. Your scrollback will be MUCH smaller, but rest assured it will NOT destroy any of your RAMdisk files that you save during a session. Or get v2.2. >... also, I quit using [the CACHE program in ProSel] it with my BBS (run under >BASIC.SYSTEM and ModemWorks) when it kept corrupting random blocks on the hard >drive Eww, what BBS is that, Magic City Micro, Sonic BBS, or some other AppleSoft BBS I haven't heard of? There used to be a MCMBBS here long ago, but it went down before I arrived. There used to be an SBBS system as well, but he got ACOS. Now we're both looking into METAL. >--Mike Owen, sysop of the Broken Blade: (206) 781-9424, 300-2400 baud, 24 hrs And me with mine currently configured as an answering machine, after a power outage wiping out my Ursa Minor Beta configuration. One day before scheduled backups. What's the best uninterruptable power supply available these days? -- /// ____ \\\ | |/ / \ \| | greg@hoss.unl.edu \\_( \==/ )_// Lig Lury Jr. \__\\/