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From: rosenqui@crc.skl.dnd.ca (Eric Rosenquist)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: STalker & STeno
Message-ID: <1991Jan18.172523.4528@crc.skl.dnd.ca>
Date: 18 Jan 91 17:25:23 GMT
References: <54920@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU>
Organization: Software Kinetics Limited
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In article <54920@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> ywrpiero@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu writes:
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>I have read with great interest the discussions here on  STalker/STeno - 
>I have been seriously considering getting this package but have had one 
>reservation.  Since I only have 1 meg of memory, I was concerned about 
>having STeno loaded while running STalker and still have enough memory 
>for other applications after quitting telecommunciations.  

1 meg is plenty, depending on what other apps you plan to run with
STalker/STeno loaded.  Calamus users and others who want as large a
workspace as possible often reboot without any ACCs at all, it's up to
you.  You can always run either as a .PRG just by renaming the file.
Using STeno as a .PRG is a good compromise since it lets your capture
area be as big as the available memory.  As an .ACC, STeno has to
allocate all of its space at boot time, so a 100K edit buffer eats
100K of RAM.

STeno's minimum config is somewhere around 90K total consumption.
That gives you a 32K edit buffer, allowing files up to around 28 or
29K to be edited (i.e., there's some storage overhead).

STalker 2.0's minimum config used right around 100K or RAM grand total
(that's with an 80x24 virtual screen and a 4K transfer buffer).  The
current version 2.06 is somewhere around 125K minimum due to all the
new features that were added around 2.04.  Note that unlike Shadow, a
small file transfer buffer does not limit your file transfers in any
way.  It simply means that it will get flushed to / read from disk
more often than with a larger one.

>Therefore, my question is: Do you need STeno to act as a capture buffer 
>when running STalker or does STalker have its own, built in capture??

No, you don't need STeno at all.  They're independent programs that
happen to take advantage of each other's presence.  Without STeno
loaded, STalker's capture command is simply not available.  I myself
use capture sparingly and rely instead on STalker's scroll-back
buffer.  If you've used xterm you probably have an idea of what this
is like.  As lines of text scroll off the top of the STalker terminal
window they aren't lost; you can configure up to 2000 lines in the
buffer and can then scroll back and forth over the received text.  You
can even use the mouse to grab a chunk of it and then save it to disk,
print it, or fire it off to STeno for editing.

You might consider the scroll-back buffer as a limited size, read-only
capture buffer.  You can also capture to disk (called ASCII-Receive)
if you like.

...hope this helps,

Eric