Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!agate!ucbvax!van-bc!ubc-cs!alberta!arcsun.arc.ab.ca!erkamp From: erkamp@arc.ab.ca (Bob Erkamp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech Subject: Re: Hidden Files Message-ID: <1991Jan16.225052.635@arc.ab.ca> Date: 16 Jan 91 22:50:52 GMT References: <1991Jan16.163558.26338@arc.ab.ca> <4f3e90a0.20b6d@apollo.HP.COM> Organization: Alberta Research Council Lines: 32 In article <4f3e90a0.20b6d@apollo.HP.COM> weber_w@apollo.hp.com writes: > >In article <1991Jan16.163558.26338@arc.ab.ca>, Bob Erkamp writes: >|> Is there a program that will 'reveal' hidden files on the atari? > >Universal Item Selector III (and II) have a switch to control file selector >behavior, one of which is "show hidden". Disk editors which look at the >directory will show them. Many of the available command shells will show >them in a listing. > >|> STMirror on my drive and discovered a hidden file (Neodesk.dat) and I think >|> that it really sucks that NeoDesk 3.0 creates this file. I would like >to know >|> what's in it and why it's there. > >Well, your Neo3 manual states that this is where the "volume name" goes, unless >the volume has already been named by a formatter using the "directory entry" >method in the root volume. It's unclear to me why the characterization that Neo >"sucks", except out of surprise at finding something you didn't understand. The >fault seems to be more yours, in not reading the docs, than theirs, in creating >this behavior. Watch out for the behavior of the recoverable trash can - it is >documented to use this technique, as well as "not following expected behavior" >to do what it does. I guess what annoys me is that it's a hidden file. I don't understand why the file couldn't just reside in the Neodesk directory. Actually I think NeoDesk is great. What I want to know is how to make it unhidden and/or delete it? I'll have to reread the docs to see if they mention anything about this. My feeling is there should be no such thing as a hidden file. Bob >