Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!umich!sharkey!cfctech!teemc!ka3ovk!irscscm!mfaurot From: mfaurot@irscscm.UUCP (Michael Faurot) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc Subject: Re: Motherboard Size Message-ID: <1991Jan17.054057.13243@irscscm.UUCP> Date: 17 Jan 91 05:40:57 GMT References: <2415@bnlux0.bnl.gov> <1991Jan15.191014.10@d.cs.okstate.edu> Reply-To: mfaurot@irscscm.UUCP (Michael Faurot) Organization: Internal Revenue Service, Washington, DC Lines: 46 In article <1991Jan15.191014.10@d.cs.okstate.edu> ong@d.cs.okstate.edu (ONG ENG TENG) writes: >From article <2415@bnlux0.bnl.gov>, by weiner@bnlls1.nsls.bnl.gov (Gary Weiner): >So, to upgrade you should probably get a baby-AT motherboard. Remember, you >might also want to change your hard drive controller from 8-bit to 16-bit. >Anyone who know better regarding the form factors please correct me. I've recently performed a similar operation. I've merged parts from an XT with an original IBM AT mother board. I wound up going with a whole new full size AT case. I'm not concerned about desktop real estate because I just turned the thing on it side and set it next to my desk. Some other concerns that should be kept in mind when performing a merging of this type are the following: 1) You may need a new keyboard. Most newer keyboards are switch selectable for the type of system they connect to (XT or AT class). I'm not 100% certain, but I believe there is a difference between the scan codes generated by an XT vs an AT keyboard. If you can adjust your keyboard you're probably all right. 2) You should look at your power requirements. Most ATs have at least 200W power supplies. I believe most of the XT power supplies are typically 150W. Also keep in mind that an XT power supply will probably not fit into an AT style case. (I learned this one the hard way). XT and AT power supplies have different physical dimensions and mounting characteristics. 3) You will probably be able to get away with using your XT hard disk controller in an AT class machine by simply claiming in the CMOS set-up that no hard-drive exists on the system and letting the on-board ROMs on the XT controller handle the rest. In my conversion/merging process this did in fact work, but for some reason the XT floppy controller would not work, and the machine would not recognize the floppy drives. I could boot from the hard drive, but could not access the floppies at all. I solved this by just purchasing a new AT class hard/floppy controller. 4) If indeed you are moving from an XT case to an AT case, don't forget to get rails for your drives if the case doesn't come with them. --Mike Faurot (mfaurot@bogart.UUCP)