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From: leban@cs.umass.edu (Bruce Leban)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: RE: Two unrelated questions (sideways monitors & appletalk cables)
Keywords: summary monitor appletalk cables
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Date: 16 Jan 91 17:56:38 GMT
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A week ago I asked the following questions.  Here is a summary of the
answers.  (Note that this is a true summary, something I wish more people
did.  Summarizing to the net shouldn't mean just concatenating all replies.)

> Two peripherally related questions (both about peripherals, that is):
> 
> 1. Are there any monitors which are page size, landscape orientation?
>    Radius makes the "Pivot" which can be rotated to that orientation, but
>    I'm looking for something which is always landscape (and cheaper than
>    the Pivot or a two page monitor).

There are no landscape monochrome monitors known to the net.

The best alternative seems to be a cheap two page monitor which would be wide
enough even if it's taller than needed.  Or 2 monitors side-by-side. :-)
[francis@zaphod.uchicago.edu]  E-Machines does have a landscape monitor, the
T16, but it's color (8-bits deep) and it's even more expensive than the Pivot
(~$2000). [cca@physics.purdue.edu]  Also, Radius has a new Pivot model (the
"soft" Pivot) which plugs directly into a IIci/si without an interface card,
list $1295. [lemke@radius.com]

> 2. I have been told by a usually reliable source (MacConnection) that you
>    can hook a single Mac up to a single AppleTalk device (e.g, a non-SC
>    LaserWriter) with an ImageWriter cable, with the implication that
>    somehow the wires are right for a two node AppleTalk network.  Is this
>    correct?  Apple of course says to buy two AppleTalk connector kits.

A straight through (din 8 to din 8) cable (ImageWriter II) works.

Yes. [cheshire@cs.stanford.edu, davisson@milton.u.washington.EDU] ...and it
actually works. [rsherman@mthvax.cs.edu, edgar@shape.mps.ohio-state.EDU]

In fact, this is what Apple used to recommend.  A problem can arise if the
Mac & printer are on different AC supplies. [amichiel@rodan.acs.syr.edu]
Some of the extra wires in the AppleTalk/PhoneNet cables are to make sure
that one node can't put too much power on the lines and damage everyone
else. [royleban@dbase.a-t.com]  Connecting both to the same surge suppressor/
power strip is a good idea.

LocalTalk signals are very different from RS-232 electrical signals.
[daven@sv.portal.com] ...but this is irrelevant.  You connect the Mac's
printer port to the printer's "AppleTalk" port.  Of course this is really a
serial port just like the one on the Mac. [Mike_Schechter@isr.syr.edu]
You still select AppleTalk in the chooser.

	--- Bruce
	Leban@cs.umass.edu  @amherst.mass.usa.earth