Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!samsung!rex!uflorida!gatech!udel!haven!mimsy!midway!ellis.uchicago.edu!dwal From: dwal@ellis.uchicago.edu (David Walton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Macs Suck (How to get revenge) Message-ID: <1991Jan19.010503.14856@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: 19 Jan 91 01:05:03 GMT References: <231b3679.664240503@fergvax> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Distribution: comp Organization: University of Chicago, Academic and Public Computing Lines: 39 In article <231b3679.664240503@fergvax> 231b3679@fergvax.unl.edu (CS 231 section 2) writes: >OK, folks, here's how you can do your part to get that immature user's Usenet >priviliges revoked. Mail a simple message to: [Instructions on how to complain to sysadmin at oregon deleted] Since when does being immature constitute sufficient grounds for having one's network access cut off? The message which Marty Willis posted lacked substance, style, and humour. One is tempted to draw conclusions about his character, taste, intelligence, and way of life which would look unfavorable when compared with, say, your average rabid gopher. But cutting off his usenet privileges probably gives him the most satisfaction of anything that could be done, and makes us look like hypersensitive, power-happy censors in the process. How do we know it wasn't a joke, for pete's sake? In the recent debate on flag-burning, many people observed that the real test of a right to free speech came when it was used to voice opinions that were unpopular. While this situation is clearly different (there's no *right* to post on Usenet, for example), I'd argue that the idea is the same: I feel extremely uncomfortable saying that Marty shouldn't be allowed to post anything simply because one of his messages was obnoxious and inappropriate. Stuff which is much more offensive than this gets slung around in other groups all the time, and they manage to live through it. You can vent your spleen against him and still let him vent his. Setting aside the larger issues (harassment, freedom of speech, etc.), if we were simply to ignore the guy, I suspect he would go away. That's what everybody really wants, now, isn't it? -- David Walton Internet: dwal@midway.uchicago.edu University of Chicago { Any opinions found herein are mine, not } Computing Organizations { those of my employers (or anybody else). }