Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!apple!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!usc!sdd.hp.com!spool2.mu.edu!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!sei!fs7.ece.cmu.edu!o.gp.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!ls1i+ From: ls1i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Leonard John Schultz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: 68040 for the Mac? Message-ID: <0bb_V1O00Uh_E3=Bow@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: 22 Jan 91 21:01:53 GMT References: <6860@crash.cts.com> <1991Jan20.185644.1245@cs.uiuc.edu>, <14274@chaph.usc.edu> Organization: Class of '92, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 32 In-Reply-To: <14274@chaph.usc.edu> On 20-Jan-91 in Re: 68040 for the Mac? user Henry Hwong@aludra.usc.e writes: >>While people may be drooling over a 25Mhz 68040 chip, remember that >>the Mac II series has a 10Mhz Nubus anchor around its neck. This >>means that your Mac IIxx (whatever) cannot be accelerated without >>spending gobs of money on a monster cache, and nomatter what, your >>screen updates will always display like molasses (unless you buy a >>video accelerator too). > >Many of these 040 accelerators go through either a processor direct slot or >the IIci cache connector, so the NuBus bottleneck is not a problem here. > >I don't think Apple places the memory on as a NuBus either (unlike IBM, >who puts their memory circuitry on the peripheral bus), so when Apple does >design a 040 machine, Nubus doesn't matter here either. > >>That is one good reason why Emany people have opted to quit the >>macintosh and buy NeXT machines (with 20Mhz Nubus). > >Wow! Are there a lot of people who really trash their Mac because of the >NuBus speed? Really. I don't even have any cards! I think there is more >to a Mac than NuBus. Yes, there is much more to a mac than NuBus. Like Singletasking, slow video which goes through slow NuBus in most Macs, slow CPUs, slow FPUs, slow SCSI, wimpy file protection, high prices, and an operating system that is in vaporware neary as long as NeXT existed. That is why I KNOW OF about 20 former Mac and PC student users that are switching to NeXT. The people that don't switch are the ones who have never TOUCHED a NeXT or are so rabid with pride in their Mac that they wouldn't switch to a HAL-9000 costing $600