Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!rosie!amarcum From: amarcum@next.com (Alan M. Marcum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Connecting a modem to Next running 2.0 Message-ID: <206@rosie.NeXT.COM> Date: 22 Jan 91 01:26:58 GMT References: <7636@plains.NoDak.edu> <1991Jan19.224552.14895@nntp-server.caltech.edu> Sender: news@NeXT.COM Reply-To: amm@NeXT.COM (Alan M. Marcum) Organization: NeXT, Inc. Lines: 70 Nntp-Posting-Host: nescorna.next.com madler@pooh.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) in <1991Jan19.224552.14895@nntp-server.caltech.edu>: > Also, does anyone know if any Mac's?wire RTS and CTS like the 040 NeXT's. > Maybe it's not so non-standard. Last I checked (a few months ago) I found at least six different "Mac-Modem" cables. For example, I've seen different cables with one (or more) of the following: Signal DB-25 MiniDIN CTS 5 2 DSR 6 2 DTR 20 2 DCD 8 2 RTS 4 1 One cable had both DSR and DCD connected to MiniDIN Pin 2. The specs for a modem cable on both 030 and 040 NeXT machines are to have DCD, Pin 8 on the DB-25, connected to MiniDIN Pin 2. In order for /dev/cua (for example) to work, Pin 2 must see a signal which reflects the presence or absence of a remote carrier. Typically, this will be DCD (assuming correct modem setup). If you want hardware flow control, I doubt strongly whether you'll find a Mac-Modem cable which meets NeXT's pin-out specifications. All this is documented in the UNIX Manual Pages under zs [zs(4) for the UNIX types], along with the interlocks between cuX (dial-out) and ttydX (dial-in). For now, yes, you'll either have to build your own cable or have a custom cable vendor build it for you. No, this is not an ideal situation. For those wondering, for those without UNIX manual pages available for our system, here are the modem cable specs from the manual page. Note that the zs manual page included in the 2.0 version of the Network and System Administration Manual is the 1.0, not the 2.0, manual page. The cable spec in the manual page in the Admin Manual shows the correct pin-outs for a 68030-based computer (with the caveat the MiniDIN Pin 2 SHOULD be called DCD, not CTS). Also, the modem cable for a 68040-based computer is specified in Chapter 13, Attaching Peripheral Devices. 68030-to-modem (no flow control available) MiniDIN-8 DB-25 1 DTR 20 DTR 2 DCD 8 DCD 3 TxD- 2 TxD 4 GND 7 GND 5 RxD- 3 RxD 6 TxD+ -not connected- 7 RTxC/+5V -not connected- 8 RxD+ 7 GND (Note that on the 68030-based machines, Port A's Pin 7 is RTxC while Port B's Pin 7 is +5 volts.) 68040-to-modem MiniDIN-8 DB-25 1 DTR 20 DTR 2 DCD 8 DCD 3 TxD 2 TxD 4 GND 7 GND 5 RxD 3 RxD 6 RTS 4 RTS 7 RTxC -not connected- 8 CTS 7 CTS -- Alan M. Marcum NeXT Technical Support amm@NeXT.COM