Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!spool2.mu.edu!samsung!sdd.hp.com!apollo!vinoski From: vinoski@apollo.HP.COM (Stephen Vinoski) Newsgroups: comp.unix.misc Subject: Re: shell architecture (to glob or not to glob) Message-ID: <4f5c65f2.20b6d@apollo.HP.COM> Date: 22 Jan 91 17:38:00 GMT References: <360@bria> <1991Jan17.185527.9824@Neon.Stanford.EDU> <365@bria> <4584@lib.tmc.edu> Sender: root@apollo.HP.COM Reply-To: vinoski@apollo.HP.COM (Stephen Vinoski) Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Apollo Division; Chelmsford, MA Lines: 25 In article <4584@lib.tmc.edu> jmaynard@thesis1.hsch.utexas.edu (Jay Maynard) writes: >In article <365@bria> mike@bria.UUCP (Michael Stefanik) writes: >>The real challenge is to provide an end-user interface that is simple to >>use, and covers most of the bases. However, a fundamental deviation from >>the philosphy of "power to the programmer" would be a major mistake, in my >>mind anyhow. > >Unix is at the far end of the scale: it's actively user-hostile. Power to >the programmer means incomprehensibility to the user. I wouldn't even >consider handing a user a raw $ or % prompt, X terminal or not. It's simply >too daunting. Unix' terseness is a win for a programmer, but a major loss >for a user. It took me two years of running a Unix system at home before I >got comfortable with it, and I'm a systems programmer by trade. How long >does it take a user? Thank you for reinforcing my opinion of those who call themselves "systems programmers." Two years? Sheesh! -steve | Steve Vinoski (508)256-6600 x5904 | Internet: vinoski@apollo.hp.com | | Testability and Diagnostics | UUCP: ...mit-eddie!apollo!vinoski| | HP Apollo Division, Chelmsford, MA 01824 | ...uw-beaver!apollo!vinoski|