Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!sdd.hp.com!spool2.mu.edu!uwm.edu!linac!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: honig@ics.uci.edu (David Honig) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: BZ (psychemicals) Message-ID: <1991Jan19.033844.1106@cbnews.att.com> Date: 19 Jan 91 03:38:44 GMT References: <1991Jan17.053412.28932@cbnews.att.com> <1991Jan18.001443.5440@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: UC Irvine Department of ICS Lines: 33 Approved: military@att.att.com From: honig@ics.uci.edu (David Honig) In article <1991Jan18.001443.5440@cbnews.att.com> kp74615@lapasorsa.tut.fi (Karri Tapani Palovuori) writes: > >In article <1991Jan17.053412.28932@cbnews.att.com> Otto.Makela@jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) writes: >> >>In a Finnish newspaper article there was discussion of psychemical weapons, >>ie. hallucinogenics and similars. I remember reading a Readers Digestive :-) >>article from the 60s on this stuff, which was rather sketchy and had some >>pretty wild claims. I'd like to know a bit more about these chemicals >>(in the newspaper article this class was called BZ - where do these names >>come from ?) > >BZ is not a group but a single chemical - quinuclidinyl benzilate (sp?). >Some other bezilates and glycolates are also potential psychoagents. I believe BZ acts like atropine, and is properly called a "deleriant" rather than a hallucinogen or psychotomimetic. Interestingly, atropine (and chemical cousins) are the active ingredients in Jimsonweed, a plant that got its name from an incident in pre-revolutionary America. To supress a colonial rebellion, England send troops. Troops that got hungry and foraged, and ate said weed. The troops were reported to have taken off their clothes, barked at the moon, etc. They were not very effective as a military force for a couple of days. The weed got the name of the city that the incident occurred near: Jamestown. -- David Honig "Moral righteousness through superior firepower."