Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod!wuarchive!ukma!seismo!dimacs.rutgers.edu!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: farkas@eng.sun.com (Frank Farkas) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: priesthood Message-ID: Date: 15 Jan 91 09:58:29 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Lines: 41 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article , math1h3@jetson.uh.edu writes: >In article , farkas@eng.sun.com (Frank Farkas) writes: >The first, and central question is whether you are a Christian. I am inclined >to think you are not. Ultimately this is something for God to judge. David, why would you say that it is "ultimately this is something for God to judge", while you judge me so severly? Your judgement made your statement regarding God judging of no effect, at least not in this life. >However in our discussions I have not found the doctrinal agreement that >I believe is a prerequisite for fellowship between us. I am sorry that you feel that way. Can you tell me what you find so objectionable regarding what I have communicated to you? >However, if you are indeed a Christian,... I would like to tell you that I do believe that I am a Christian who holds that Jesus is the Christ. That there is no salvation except for the great atoning sacrifice of Christ. Jesus is my savior and my Lord. If you define a Christian as one who believes in the various doctrines as you do (i.e. the predestination), then I clearly don't meet your defination. On the other hand most others of the various Christian denominations don't either. >Really, the differences between us have to do with more important issues. I sure would like to find out what is it which troubles you about my faith, and comes in the way of meaningful communication. Since the Moderator doesn't believe that any leghty discussion of the LDS believes are timely, I did offer that we could exchange some private communications. >David H. Wagner >a confessional Lutheran. With brotherly love, Frank