Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!pacbell.com!ucsd!celit!billd From: billd@fps.com (Bill Davidson) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems Subject: Re: Help: Why MNP5? Message-ID: <15126@celit.fps.com> Date: 27 Jan 91 21:44:07 GMT References: <1991Jan18.194613.13435@watserv1.waterloo.edu> <0cD8V3w163w@ozonebbs.UUCP> <1991Jan27.160653.7104@nstar.rn.com> Organization: FPS Computing Inc., San Diego CA Lines: 26 In article <1991Jan27.160653.7104@nstar.rn.com> larry@nstar.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes: >Sorry - but incorrect with MNP5. MNP5 over a 2400 baud connection >if properly installed will produce transfer rates of 280 cps even >sending GIFs and ZIPs I find this *VERY* difficult to believe. GIF's are already LZW compressed and so in general cannot be further compressed by *ANY* one dimmensional digital compression method I am aware of without data loss. If the MNP modems are really running a 2400 baud link, 280cps seems impossible. The theoretical max for 2400 baud is something like 266cps (8 data + 1 stop) and anything higher would require compression and as I said, I don't believe you can compress a GIF => 280cps impossible. My theory tends to agree with my experience with MNP modems as well; in fact they tend to do only slightly better for me than normal old Hayes 2400's on ascii transfers. The protocol does seem to adversly affect turnaround time during interactive work for some strange reason (my guess is it's due to sampling for compression). Also, when one MNP modem connects to another MNP modem and one has MNP turned on and the other has it off, it's been my experience that you get only garbage. Both can talk to non-MNP modems fine. They can only talk to each other if they both have MNP off or both on (this experience has been with Microcom's; the inventors of MNP). The only thing good I have to say about MNP is that it does tend to allow less line noise through. --Bill Davidson