Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: Jim.Redelfs@iugate.unomaha.edu (Jim Redelfs) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: What are Secure Lines? Message-ID: <16014@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 12 Jan 91 08:58:39 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Reply-To: jim.redelfs@iugate.unomaha.edu Organization: TELECOM Digest Lines: 50 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 11, Issue 29, Message 5 of 10 > There is no such thing as a "secure line" for a phone call. Once it's > out on lines in areas not totally controlled by your own trusted > people, it's public. > Never say ANYTHING on the black {i.e. non-STU} phone you don't want to read > about tomorrow in the {Washington Post}. Although your was an EXCELLENT discussion of the "how to" and "why use a" secure (a) line, but it sure makes ordinary loops sound virtually non-private! Virtually everything I have heard in the course of my years has not been memorable, yet ordinary subscribers are increasing concerned about the security of their ordinary transmissions! I had a new-home installation recently where the subscriber insisted that the Network Interface be placed INSIDE the home, and that the dropwire enter the foundation BELOW grade! The customer's primary concern was the integrity of his home security system. After two hours and a dozen calls, we (US WEST Communications/NE) acquiesed and accomodated the customer. I explained that all a reasonably skilled burglar would have to do was to simply walk out to the wirepost in front and cut the line. He was not swayed. Another customer had their security system installer build a wooden box around the protector housing and (drop) riser tube, complete with magnetic switch! Explaining to the customer that two minutes (or less) with a tile spade would circumvent THAT safeguard (dig up and cut the shallow drop). In my (not yet) vast experience, I have encountered only ONE "tap" and it was merely a (convicted) case of "Theft of Services"!! Has there been much (any) traffic here regarding unauthorized entry into residential SNIs (Standard (telephone) Network Interfaces - complete with working, RJllC jack) on the backs of homes? I recall seeing a short bit about it on CNN Headline News a couple of years ago. Our SNI vendor (Seicor) finally replaced the "can wrench" bolt with the Allen/Torx-like-headed bolt. GREAT! Just another tool to carry to the back of each house! JR Copernicus V1.02 Elkhorn, NE [200:5010/666.14] (200:5010/2.14)