Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!nstn.ns.ca!news.cs.indiana.edu!samsung!spool2.mu.edu!uunet!mcsun!hp4nl!ruuinf!accucx!jaapv From: jaapv@accucx.cc.ruu.nl (Jaap Verhage) Newsgroups: comp.graphics Subject: Re: Alchemy on PC (JPEG compression): some findings Message-ID: <1126@accucx.cc.ruu.nl> Date: 27 Jan 91 16:34:09 GMT References: <1115@accucx.cc.ruu.nl> Reply-To: jaapv@accucx.UUCP (Jaap Verhage) Organization: Academic Computer Centre Utrecht, The Netherlands Lines: 34 A while ago, I posted some of my findings with Alchemy, notably compressing existing GIF files with various quality settings, then decompressing them and comparing the results with the originals. Results were mediocre to bad. Several people reacted to this, writing that starting out with GIFs was not the way to do this. I agree. So, I then took a 24-bit Targa file and 1) converted it directly into GIF with Piclab, in order to be able to view it; 2) converted it directly into GIF with Alchemy; 3) compressed it, using various quality settings, then decompressed the resulting images back into GIFs. Findings were as follows: 1) the best direct conversion Targa->GIF was done by Piclab with dithering off. Alchemy was not bad, but just not as good with dithering off. With dithering on, Alchemy delivered a bit better than Piclab. However, I *hate* this dithering: spurious dots all over the place. 2) GIFs resulting from compressed Targa-images were bad, period. No amount of dithering on/off or quality setting would help. I've heard that version 1.1 of Alchemy contains a bug when decompressing a .JPG file; it should be fixed in 1.3. Well, I believe it's time the original authors posted this version as an evaluation copy. You don't think I'll even *think* of registering on the basis of a 1) crippled, 2) buggy version, do you? 3) As things now stand, Alchemy performs badly for me. I'll feed it down the drain and wait with JPEG compression until Tom Lane's group comes out with something. In the meantime, I strongly suggest that, if images are being posted to whatever newsgroup, they be GIF files and not JPEG compressed ones. I'm *not* impressed with what I've seen up till now. -- Regards, Jaap. Jaap Verhage, Academic Computer Centre, State University at Utrecht, Holland. jaapv@cc.ruu.nl +<-*|*->+ I claim *every*thing and speak for myself