Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!apple!cambridge.apple.com!alms From: alms@cambridge.apple.com (Andrew L. M. Shalit) Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: Is this the end of the lisp wave? Message-ID: Date: 25 Jan 91 15:53:19 GMT References: <17374@csli.Stanford.EDU> <1991Jan23.080259.19816@Think.COM> <1991Jan23.094925.12728@ulrik.uio.no> <6493@hplabsz.HP.COM> Sender: news@cambridge.apple.com Followup-To: : Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cambridge, MA Lines: 22 In-reply-to: mayer@hplabsz.HP.COM's message of 23 Jan 91 22:25:04 GMT In article <6493@hplabsz.HP.COM> mayer@hplabsz.HP.COM (Niels Mayer) writes: In article <1991Jan23.094925.12728@ulrik.uio.no> espen@math.uio.no (Espen J. Vestre) writes: >Second, why is it claimed that CL is "too big"? What does that mean? >That applications tend to take up much space? That lisp systems take up >much space? Anyway, it is certainly possible to make compact CL systems. >My own favourite system takes up only 790K on my harddisk. How much space a program takes up on a hard disk is not very important -- disk is relatively cheap compared to RAM. More important, what is the runtime size of your application? Most of the CL impls I've seen take up megabytes of valuable RAM and swap space. I believe Espen was referring the Macintosh Common Lisp. The system (including editor, window system, etc) runs in a memory partition as small as 1 megabyte. Actually, it runs in 600k if you really want to push things. -andrew disclaimer: I worked/work on this product. --