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From: mgresham@artsnet.UUCP (Mark Gresham)
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Subject: 2nd rate words (was: Re: 2nd rate European Conference)
Keywords: absolute perceptual unity
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Date: 25 Jan 91 01:18:57 GMT
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In article <16440@venera.isi.edu> smoliar@venera.isi.edu (Stephen Smoliar) writes:
>In article <1150@artsnet.UUCP> mgresham@artsnet.UUCP (Mark Gresham) writes:
>>  As somewhere else rattling about 'experience' vs. 'intelligence'
>>has been going on, I now throw in my two cents worth:
>>
>Mark, while I appreciate your efforts to try to make sense out of a
>philosophical debate which seems to get more clouded with every contribution,
>I must confess to being concerned that there are too many highly-charged words
>in your above text.  I do not mean this as a personal attack so much as a wail
>of frustration that we all keep getting slammed back against these words like
>"intelligence" and "knowledge," [...]

Minor adjustment on my part from one highly charged word to
another:  I should have said "intellect" instead of
"intelligence."  All-in-all, what I was hoping to juggle these
words into is some sort of clearer definitions and clearer
relationship to each other.
  I have to depend upon personal uses of these words, which, of
course, have developed in part through encounters with other
person's peculiar uses and my own adoption/adaptation/misunderstandings
of them.
  I don't use "knowledge" in the same way that I think Cage does,
i.e. "knowledge"="intellect" and vs. "experience."
  Instead, I use the words "intellect" and "experience" as terms
for different kinds of "knowledge" (another is "intuition", and
there's a fourth but haven't settled on the best word for it yet).
  Perhaps I'm reverting to my old "toss and see where it lands"
posting style, in the manner of when I first posted on the net
some time ago.
  The problem with all this is the same problem with music theory:
trying to represent a dynamic of events in a static model.
  (Paraphrase Fuller: we need more verbs, fewer nouns.)

Cheers,

--Mark

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