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From: maddox@blake.u.washington.edu (Tom Maddox)
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Subject: Re: Sophistication of federal investigators
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Date: 28 Jan 91 04:46:17 GMT
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	I'd like to stick my nose into this one long enough to say I agree
entirely with Karl Denninger's position regarding the persistent, growing
threat posed to all our civil liberties by governments federal, state, and
local.  Further, I agree that the electronic frontier is only one place to
fight for our liberties.  However, I am unclear about what Karl is proposing,
as I am more generally unclear about, as someone once said, what is to be done.

	The EFF has its own fish to fry; I don't think they can be expected
to expand into a 90s ACLU, given their current limited resources, the stated
focus of their founders, etc.  The question thus remains:  *how* can we 
begin to oppose the whole complex of drug war, hacker war,thoughtcrime war, 
etc. in some way that might prove effective?
--
				Tom Maddox

"I couldn't get past page 10 of Ulysses . . . the book just didn't make sense."
			"Friendless" Farrell