Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!decwrl!limbo!taylor From: taylor@intuitive.com (Dave Taylor) Newsgroups: comp.society Subject: Re: Computer Communication and the Gulf War Message-ID: <1665@limbo.Intuitive.Com> Date: 28 Jan 91 23:27:27 GMT Sender: taylor@limbo.Intuitive.Com Organization: Intuitive Systems, Mountain View, California +1 (415) 966-1151 Lines: 82 Approved: taylor@Limbo.Intuitive.Com Thom Gillespie asks about the use of technology and computers as a vehicle for communication and information dissemination in the Gulf War currently raging in the Middle East. A few thoughts: First off, there are Usenet groups specifically discussing the war: "alt.desert-storm" and "alt.desert-storm.facts" (demonstrating by their very names the continuing clash between fact and opinion) Prior to the actual launch of the offensive, there was a group in the same heirarchy "alt.desert-shield" which transitioned. Secondly, I'm sure that there are not only other groups discussing the topic, but I know that there are other mailing lists that have information from Israeli correspondents showing up regularly. In particular, CRTNet has done a great job of reporting not only on what's going on in Israel, but adding thoughtful comments about the importance and limitations of computer-based media in a situation like the Gulf War. Whether the NBC national news covers the peace demonstrations is, most unfortunately, a function of their belief in whether they can get "the best ratings" of the news shows competing for the viewer dollar. The National Broadcasting Company ultimately cares little as a commercial organization about the morals and ethics of the current situation; they're more concerned with people flipping to CNN instead of NBC for the news, taking away their advertising revenue. It's a hard fact of our capitalistic society. (by the same token, how many companies that have donated to the troops have done it out of a feeling of patriotism and support? If they did, why the press releases? Why the stories about them? Sadly, there are quite a few companies around the world cashing in on the war, ignoring the death and destruction to both sides) Last week the Wall Street Journal had a very interesting article about computer BBS systems located in Israel and elsewhere, where submissios from throughout the Middle East were de rigeur and were avidly read by those not in the thick of things. I recommend that you check it out, Thom; page one, column four, from either Thursday or Friday of last week. The people of Iraq, by the way, can't communicate with us via electronic means because they haven't the technology to do so, for the most part. Additionally, there are significant problems with not only getting any electricity but in finding working phone lines that aren't being pre-empted by diplomatic/official uses. I also wonder what we'd hear from the Iraqi people -- would they echo the sentiments of their leader? Would they question the value of the war? Or would they, as Jordan has been reporting to their people, talk about the war between Israel and Iraq, noting how the US has come to "defend the Jewish State yet again"? Since we're in a state of war, the information disseminated by our government (and the governments of the rest of the allied forces) is intended not only to keep us, the American (Allied) populace informed, but to convey information to the Iraqi government too. By the same token, when Hussein addresses his people via a national radio broadcast, he knows that we'll hear it in this country too. Again, citing the Wall Street Journal, they were surprised to find that about 85% of the people surveyed in the US believe that the Pentagon and White House are doing a fine job of keeping us informed and balancing the secrets of wartime with the need for public dissemination of information. By contrast, journalists at the briefings are clearly more and more disgruntled with the obstacles they perceive in "getting the real story". Frankly, as a journalist myself, I'm a bit embarrassed at my colleagues who insist that the right to know ALL that's going on is tantamount and more important than any sort of security and confidentiality. Freedom of the press, to me, means that the press is free to publish what they choose, not that they have the inherent right to all information, regardless of validity or external environmental factors and concerns. After all, they don't publish accusations of child molesting since the cases where people have had their reputations irrevocably besmirched then afterwards proven innocent... Whether or not we should be in the Gulf, and whether or not we should have launched the Desert Storm offensive is not particularly relevant to this group, frankly, so I shall refrain from any comments, and hope that others responding to this most interesting topic do the same. Remember, there *are* other forums for those that are interested in discussing these topics. Dave Taylor