Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!limbo!taylor From: bradley@cs.utexas.edu (Bradley L. Richards) Newsgroups: comp.society Subject: Re: Computer Communication and the Gulf War Message-ID: <1679@limbo.Intuitive.Com> Date: 30 Jan 91 02:20:57 GMT Sender: taylor@limbo.Intuitive.Com Organization: Dept of Computer Sciences, UTexas, Austin Lines: 31 Approved: taylor@Limbo.Intuitive.Com Thom Gillespie writes that he wants to hear news over the net from inside Iraq, and can't understand why we haven't heard from them like we did from folks inside China about Tiennamen Square. There are two reasons to consider. First, China has nearly 100 times the population of Iraq. Even though both countries are relatively poor, it's a fair bet that there are a lot more folks with computer access in China than in Iraq. The second, obvious, reason is that Tiennaman Square was not an attempt to destroy the military and industrial centers of the country. Communications in Iraq at this point are probably chancy at best, and even electrical power is unavailable in many areas. So it's little wonder that we don't see lots of Iraqi messages on the net.... Thom, you also say "is there anyone who doesn't realize that the Gulf War is also an enormous weapons testing research project. We are told about the successes, what about the failures?" Now, there's no doubt that the military and the contractors are paying very close attention to how well different weapons systems are working--they'd be foolish not to. But your implication that this is the reason (or even *a* reason) to go to war is uncalled for. No doubt there have been failures. Bombs have been dropped off-target, and no doubt you've seen the photos of the town northwest of Baghdad that was destroyed. But what kind of information do you expect? There's only one western journalist left in the whole country, and everything he says has to pass by Iraqi censors. Iraq portrayed that village as an example of the kind of indiscriminate bombing that they claim we are doing. But I'd lay odds that there was a military target of some sort in that village (perhaps one of the mobile Scud launchers?), as it was just too far out of the way to get bombed by accident. Bradley