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From: ewing@tortuga.SanDiego.NCR.COM (David Ewing)
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Subject: Re: Jack Nicklaus Golf
Summary: Unlimited not Ultimate
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Date: 22 Jan 91 20:49:32 GMT
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In article <1991Jan22.013607.18118@cs.umn.edu> tim@hiv.med.umn.edu (Tim Leonard) writes:
>Could someone describe to me the differences between the Jack Nicklaus
>Golf disks.  The catalogues are unclear.  There appear to be two:
>"Ultimate" and "Unlimited".  I know that Unlimited is a course designer
>but does it also allow game play?  

There is no such thing as Jack Nicklaus "Ultimate" golf.
There is a "Jack Nicklaus Unlimited Golf", however.  The catalogues 
are confused.

Originally there was a game called "Jack Nicklaus's Greatest 18 Holes
of Championship Golf".  This game contained three courses to play :
a composite course made up of holes from Nicklaus's favorite courses
that have hosted a major championship (ie, the Masters -- held at
Augusta National, the US Open, the British Open and the PGA), 
Castle Pines (a Nicklaus designed course in Colorado) and a third 
course whose name escapes me (Desert something -- also a Nicklaus
designed course, located in Arizona).

This game is pretty good (if you like golf 8-) ).  It's one drawback
is painfully slow screen drawings.  Hard disk recommended.

Shortly thereafter, a few new course disks were released.  These are
not stand alone games -- they require either the original game 
mentioned above or the "Unlimited" game discussed below.

Course disks :
1989 major courses -- Troon (Scotland), Kemper Lakes and Oak Hill .   
1990 major courses -- St. Andrews, Medinah and Shoal Creek
one or two others that are courses around the world that Nicklaus
designed.

Of these, I only own the 1989 disk and it has some serious bugs.  On 
the 17th hole at Troon there is a rock in front of the tee (representing
a small boulder).  When you hit your tee shot, even though your
ball has cleared the rock by a factor of three, your ball "hits
it".  There are similar problems with small bushes on the Oak Hill
course.

The "Unlimited" golf game is a major improvement.  The screen 
drawing time is vastly improved.  There are lots of nice new
features such as reverse angle instant replay, a pop-up menu
for club distances, keeps your stroke average, varying course
conditions (wet, dry, normal), a grid overlay on the greens
so you can see the undulations, etc.

You can run all the old courses (the original three plus any of 
the course disks) through the new interface.  I've found that doing 
this somehow cleans up almost all of the bugs with hitting bogus 
rocks and bushes as mentioned above).

The big new feature is the course designer. You can create your own
courses (hence, the Unlimited title).  I haven't fully explored this
yet, but it looks extremely thorough.

Hope this helps.

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David A. Ewing
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