Xref: utzoo comp.sys.amiga.advocacy:274 comp.sys.amiga.introduction:86 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!uxa.cso.uiuc.edu!lrg7030 From: lrg7030@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Loren Rittle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.introduction Subject: Re: CYGNUS vs GNU (Was Re: Emacs for the Amiga 1000 ? (MicroEmacs?)) Message-ID: <1991Jan12.151711.17948@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: 12 Jan 91 15:17:11 GMT References: <1881dceb.ARN09670@prolix.ccadfa.oz.au> <4849@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> <1991Jan12.125348.24593@evax.arl.utexas.edu> Sender: news@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (News) Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Distribution: comp Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 45 Note: I moved this as I fear some sort of editor war coming up, let's make sure it takes place in comp.sys.amiga.advocacy! Adam Hill writes: > Wait for TurboText by Martin Tallifer. There is a demo of it on ab20.larc. > nasa.gov. Well, as a long time CygnusEd user, I can safely say that while TurboText looks ok [ARexx port (unlike CED, there is one for every edit window open, which is a nice touch that I have hoped CED would add for some time), powerful ARexx command set (like CED), user configurable menus (unlike CED), ``bookmarks'' (like CED), a feature they call folds (allows for hiding text, CED does not have this sort of thing built-in, but I wrote ARexx macros to do the same thing about 1-1/2years ago!), they also claim to support : ``Supports sophisticated text templates, including special template sets for C, Modula-2, Ada, Assembly, and COBOL programming'', the templates aren't too sophisticated or special. Not at all as powerful as those under LSE under VMS, which I would consider powerful enough to be of any use. It seems to get real confused if you hit the expand key more than once over the same `token' twice! :-)], BUT they are missing some powerful CED features that us power hungry users have come to expect, for example: NO undo to speak of! Once you even move the cursor from the last line edited, no undos can take place, ie they have a one line undo that it forgets about as soon as you move off the line! (Hell, I thought that Gold Disk was the only company making `Professional' software without undo features! :-) :-) Only two views into a file at one time, with each document opening into it's one window. This actually makes switching between docs a pain in the butt, IMHO. Count me out, I stick with the power of CED. But do get the demo, you may decide that TurboText is your cup of tea. But at the same price as CED with less power, why? Loren J. Rittle -- ``In short, this is the absolute coolest computer device ever invented!'' -Tom Denbo speaking about The VideoToaster by NewTek ``your pathetic architectures won't support it'' - Kent Paul Dolan ``Think about NewTek's VideoToaster! Now think about the Amiga!'' Loren J. Rittle lrg7030@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu