Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!bcm!dimacs.rutgers.edu!rutgers!cbmvax!peter From: peter@cbmvax.commodore.com (Peter Cherna) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer Subject: Re: GadTools functionality Message-ID: <18205@cbmvax.commodore.com> Date: 28 Jan 91 21:35:01 GMT References: <91023.105132GHGAQA4@cc1.kuleuven.ac.be> <18096@cbmvax.commodore.com> Reply-To: peter@cbmvax.commodore.com (Peter Cherna) Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA Lines: 59 In article mwm@pa.dec.com (Mike (My Watch Has Windows) Meyer) writes: >What quote? The above _is_ the impression you left me with. You continue to draw the wrong impression. You confuse importance with relative importance, perhaps with some personal bias added based on what you think is important or difficult. (Personal bias is OK, since we all have it, but we should all be aware of it, myself included). Instead of adding this extension (which turns out to be a reasonable amount of work), we expended our efforts and ROM space on other areas which are more important, like keeping menus which go off-screen from crashing your Amiga. >You kept >trying to convince me that layout programs were the right way to do >things, and gave no indication that there were any plans for support >of a layout library that moved gadtools gadgets around after creation. Naturally, we don't talk about future plans in any detail. It is rarely if ever in Commodore's interest to do so. I would note that menus are built in two steps: a creation step and a menu step. So don't pretend that the concept is lost on us. >I.e. - "We're going to fix it, but you shouldn't use it." That's the >answer I got last time. To me, that indicates the what I said above - >that you don't consider this a problem, but something you're going to >have to kludge in a fix for. No kludge. ONE DAY it will really work correctly, smoothly, and in an integrated manner. Today (and tomorrow, for that matter) it won't. >As to why I would rather have a requester than a window - how about >because it's simpler to use? If you code it right, once you have ONE window (which you need before you can put up a requester), whipping off more windows is easy. You are more than welcome to decide that in spite of evidence to the contrary, you find it easier to put up a requester without GadTools than a window with. Twelve months from now we can compare notes, and see how many people went down your road and how many people went down mine. Complaining about what you haven't got is pointless. Why? Because: 1. We've already thought of the enhancements you'd like. 2. If we hadn't, we would have noted them down the first time you brought them up. 3. We are not adding any features to 2.0 at this stage. 4. Mailing me any new insights in a concise form increases the probably that I'll notice them, though I try to read relevant stuff as carefully as I can. >