Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!psuvax1!psuvm!art100 From: ART100@psuvm.psu.edu (Andy Tefft) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: For sale: -- GS system Message-ID: <91024.221556ART100@psuvm.psu.edu> Date: 25 Jan 91 03:15:56 GMT References: <7355297@ub.cc.umich.edu> Organization: Penn State University Lines: 27 I personally like seeing for sale ads here, since I don't really read the forsale groups since I am not particularly looking to buy, however once in a while something will come up that I am interested in that I might have missed were it not posted. As long as it fits the group (no mac stuff, for example), I have no complaint. Whether or not ads are against a charter of any group or the policy of any particular site, I don't see how anyone can complain about non-commercial posts along the lines of "I have xxx that I am wanting to sell. Please send me e-mail for more info." Well, I guess you can complain if you say that strictly speaking it is an ad, but if there is no profit involved, what's the big deal? Please, nothing about the ENORMOUS cost of transmitting one person's one-line ad all over the world, since it is a TINY percentage of even just this group's traffic... let's see, 100 bytes at 300 baud (worst case)... takes 2.6 seconds to transmit, at about 25 cents per minute that's... 1.08 cents max for one site to transmit it to another, and assuming 100 people per site I'd say that on average each person who ever pays a cent toward usenet traffic pays .01 cents. hmm, a small portion of the total message traffic costs (I'm ignoring overhead like electricity, storage, hardware costs because these are just that, overhead, and will be paid regardless of whether or not that one message is sent). And consider, this little discussion has cost more than your average for sale message and is worth a small fraction of what the average for sale message is worth. Go figure.