Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!apple!agate!darkstar!ucscb.UCSC.EDU!unknown From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: Wings (was:Re: GS/OS Reording) Message-ID: <11585@darkstar.ucsc.edu> Date: 26 Jan 91 05:27:08 GMT References: <1991Jan25.091959.8601@ims.alaska.edu> <11563@darkstar.ucsc.edu> Sender: usenet@darkstar.ucsc.edu Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; Open Access Computing Lines: 53 In article gt0t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Gregory Ross Thompson) writes: > > Well, I think I just found the main source of our problems and >misunderstandings... Nope, not quite.. You make a correct observation, but I'm lumping both ProSELs together, because they both have many of the same functions.. (Launcher, Disk recover, etc.) >unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) writes: >> So repeating myself, I boot into ProSEL because it's probably the >> best thing so far for ProDOS 8, and since I don't need GS/OS booted, I >> don't boot into Wings.. > > There ya go. You're using ProSEL 8... I'm 99% sure that the rest >of us are talking about ProSEL 16. ProSEL 8 is currently at version Well, as I said, I sort of consider both of them simultaneously (the ProSELs).. And yes, I HAVE used both of them fairly extensively... (ProSEL 8 much more than 16 though). Larry Virden wanted a review of Wings (which he repeatedly called "Wingz" in a post... "Wingz" is some IBM and/or Mac productivity programs of somesuch {I forget if it's a spreadsheet or database or what} I will give a more extensive review of Wings soon, but Wings is, in short, a desktop version of ProSEL... Launching buttons like ProSEL, file utilities, etc... Word processor/editor... Lots more... I don't always like desktop versions of programs over text versions, though... I use the fact that the GS has a text mode in favor of it all the time.. (in comparison to the Mac, Amiga, and ST's not having one) I think it'd be DAMN hard to beat ProTERM in a desktop version.. If someone does it, I'd surely buy the program though... A desktop version of X (does the X protocol work over modems or only directly over Ethernet or somesuch?), or even a GS equivalent of the -damn cool- thing Xenix has... You just type ALT-Function key, and you go to another screen. Instantaneously, and the other screen is still running. It's VERY useful.. Then you can have an ftp going in one screen, a compile in another screen (although those don't take long cuz the 386s we use for graphics are damn fast), an rlogin (to B, the fun machine!) in another, etc... It's cool.. and I really wish I could do it from home on my GS.. EITHER in text mode or in actual graphical windows... It'd be faster in text, so I'd probably prefer that, unless the scrolling, etc. could be made acceptably fast, like it is in Orca C's editor... {Ohwell, that should probably have been a few separate paragraphs, but I'm too lazy} -- /Apple II(GS) Forever! unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu MAIL ME FOR INFO ABOUT CHEAP CDs\ \WRITE TO ORIGIN ABOUT ULTIMA VI //e and IIGS! Mail me for addresses, & info. /