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From: dattier@ddsw1.MCS.COM (David W. Tamkin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: ASCII Uploading Problems (Survey file)
Message-ID: <1991Jan27.080016.29441@ddsw1.MCS.COM>
Date: 27 Jan 91 08:00:16 GMT
References: <Jan.25.01.08.59.1991.21574@remus.rutgers.edu>
Organization: Contributor Account at ddsw1, Wheeling, Illinois
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lcs@remus.rutgers.edu (Lyle C. Seplowitz) wrote in
<Jan.25.01.08.59.1991.21574@remus.rutgers.edu>:

| My problem has been that a straight upload of an ASCII file results in
| the text being all on one line. The TR command fixes this.

Right.  We store files for our Commodore eight-bits with only CR's as line
separators without LF's.  Unix wants LF's without CR's.  tr can change one to
the other.  A Unix system displays text with CR's but no LF's on a single
line because it doesn't recognize a CR as a line terminator.

| However,
| now I can't seem to upload the entire file (upload aborts for some
| reason--I've tried several versions of the file). So I used Desterm's
| transmit buffer feature to write to text file directly into an EMACS
| file. This works fine except that there is an additional carriage
| return added to each line. For those familiar with UNIX, the man pages
| state that this command translates the input. I've tried experimenting
| with this command with no luck...anyone have any suggestions? Sorry
| that I keep coming back with more problems.

Right.  DesTerm likes to follow DOS-world conventions: talking in true ASCII
(I consider it one of DesTerm's most glaring shortcomings that one cannot do
a protocol upload of a PETSCII disk file nor write a file in PETSCII while
one downloads it; DesTerm will translate an existing disk file if it fits
into the buffer, but since it measures buffer use in lines rather than
characters, it doesn't take a very long file to overload the buffer area)
and using CR/LF pairs as line terminators.  To change them to lone LF's,

tr -d "\015" < infile > outfile

The -d option of tr says to remove all characters in the source string.

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