Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!das From: das@Apple.COM (David Shayer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer Subject: Re: Prototyper 3.0 Keywords: prototyper Message-ID: <48528@apple.Apple.COM> Date: 27 Jan 91 09:22:55 GMT References: <1991Jan25.183520.17144@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Organization: The Troll Den Lines: 26 In article <1991Jan25.183520.17144@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> cmr45797@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Charles Mark Remes) writes: > > As a beginning Mac programmer I'm curious as to whether or >not it is a good idea for me to use a product like Prototyper >or some other code generation app. Would I be better off delving >into Inside Mac and writing my own event loops and stuff, or >should I use Prototyper to generate the code and then study it? IMHO the code generated by Prototyper is shit. It is not useful, for putting in a commercial app or for learning from. Also, the program is buggy and slow and tends to crash. However, I use it on and off because no one has written anything better. I use it for prototyping interfaces, not generating code. (Boy, I bet that paragraph gets some flames!) There is a similar program called AppMaker, I like Prototyper better. I have heard that the next version of AppMaker will actually generate pretty good code, but I haven't seen it myself. If you want something to save you from having to learn Inside Mac, try MacApp or the Think Class Library. It will save you some work, although you will still have to know a fair amount about Inside Mac. (MacApp or TCL may put up a window for you, but you have to know how to draw something in that window.) David