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From: john@nmt.edu (John Shipman)
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: Re: Indoor birds and birdwatching
Summary: This is a frequently recurring discussion
Message-ID: <1991Jan23.060842.13598@nmt.edu>
Date: 23 Jan 91 06:08:42 GMT
References: <21586@netcom.UUCP>
Organization: Zoological Data Processing
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Jack Hamilton (jfh@netcom.UUCP) writes:
+--
| If you're serious about keeping indoor bird discussions out of this
| newsgroup, you'll have to do one of two things:  rename it to
| rec.birdwatching, or set up another group called rec.pet.birds
| (similar to rec.pet.dogs)....
+--

How ironic: rec.pets.dogs is a recent development, and owes its
existence to this controversy in rec.birds!

Last fall, a number of people here had come to the conclusion
that this plan---rename this group as rec.birding and split
rec.pets into rec.pets.dogs, rec.pets.cats, and rec.pets.birds,
leaving rec.pets for miscellany---deserved at least to be put
to a vote.

Mike Mahler, a regular contributor here, volunteered to
coordinate the voting.  The net.gods informed him that he could
not ask for a combined vote on all these changes; they would
have to be done one at a time.

He started with rec.pets.dogs, which passed---but that's as far
as it got.  Who would like to coordinate the next round?  Seems
to me that the logical progression is: first vote on splitting
rec.pets.birds out of rec.pets, and if that passes, vote on
renaming rec.birds as rec.birding (or whatever name you
prefer).

Being a vote coordinator takes some time, some effort, and a
solid account; unfortunately I am using a guest account with
insufficient disc space for the mail traffic.  Any volunteers?
A complete list of the procedures to be followed is posted in
news.announce.newusers under the heading `How to start a New
Newsgroup.'

Regardless of what you think should be done about the group
structure, a vote would help keep the complaining down, whether
it passes or not.
-- 
John Shipman/Zoological Data Processing/Socorro, NM/john@jupiter.nmt.edu
``Let's go outside and commiserate with nature.''  --Dave Farber