Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!dali.cs.montana.edu!milton!evolution!joe From: joe@evolution.u.washington.edu (Joe Felsenstein) Newsgroups: sci.bio Subject: Re: Eve Summary: Wright-Fisher model Keywords: Wright, Fisher, model, eve, population genetics Message-ID: <15110@milton.u.washington.edu> Date: 25 Jan 91 06:40:10 GMT References: <4bYlLjO00WB9AOwEpu@andrew.cmu.edu> <1991Jan24.220906.16423@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> <17217@cs.utexas.edu> Sender: news@milton.u.washington.edu Reply-To: joe@evolution.genetics.washington.edu (Joe Felsenstein) Distribution: na Organization: University of Washington, Seattle Lines: 42 The Wright-Fisher model (named after Sewall Wright and Ronald Fisher, the two most important population geneticists ever), is a model in which each gene in the offspring generation is copied from a random gene among the 2N available in the parent generation, and this occurs randomly and with replacement. This is motivated by the idea that each parent produces a very large and equal number of gametes, and the N surviving offspring are the result of random collisions of these gametes, followed by density-dependence trimming them randomly down to N survivors. The haploid version, in which N things are randomly drawn from N, is the one relevant to the Eve question, with N the number of females. The mathematics of the two is identical with 2N replaced by N. You will find it discussed in almost any population genetics text, but a reasonable starting point would be Dan Hartl and Andrew Clark's "Principles of Population Genetics," second edition, published by Sinauer Associates, 1988. The W-F model dates from 1930-1931. If you want something more mathematical that could be made to bear on the Eve issue (or non-issue) try my 1971 paper, "The rate of loss of multiple alleles in finite haploid populations" in Theoretical Population Biology, volume 2, pages 391-403. To (very) good approximation, if we have n females who we are following in a W-F model where there are a total of N females in each generation, the time in generations back until they have n-1 female parents is approximately geometrically distributed with mean N/(n(n-1)). Applying this repeatedly starting with N=n and with n getting smaller and smaller until it reaches 1 you get the required distribution, and can easily calculate its mean and variance. This is only an approximation but is a very close one for large N and darn good even for moderate N. (Asides: I have not posted this to soc.men or soc.women because it seemed more appropriate here. Also: Fisher was English, not German, and thus had no "c" in his last name.) ----- Joe Felsenstein, Dept. of Genetics, Univ. of Washington, Seattle, WA 98195 Internet: joe@genetics.washington.edu (IP No. 128.95.12.41) Bitnet/EARN: felsenst@uwavm UUCP: ... uw-beaver!evolution.genetics!joe