Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!ucla-cs!news From: MACGYVER%INDYCMS.BITNET@mvs.oac.ucla.edu (MacGyver) Newsgroups: sci.med.aids Subject: Re: (2931) No "Genetic Weapon" Message-ID: <1991Jan25.152917.19782@cs.ucla.edu> Date: 25 Jan 91 15:02:16 GMT Sender: news@cs.ucla.edu (Mr. News) Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department Lines: 39 Approved: phil@wubios.wustl.edu Note: non-commercial reproduction. Nntp-Posting-Host: squid.cs.ucla.edu Archive-Number: 2932 On Fri, 25 Jan 91 06:10:44 pst Support Account for SCI.MED.AIDS said: >to respond. I will not deal with the documentation, as this has been >described previously. All I will say is that the concept that it became part >of a vaccination program is basically ridiculous, and that it is "in the drugs" >on the street, as opposed to the paraphernalia of drug users being >contaminated, >is equally or more absurd. > >Basically, the science of molecular biology did not exist as such in 1969. >Let me qualify that: a science called that did exist, and at roughly that time >I was employed in a laboratory which was called a Molecular Biology Lab; >however, what we could *DO* as molecular biologists in the early 1970s was >extraordinarily little. I do not regularly purchase the magazine and do not have any idea as to the overall credentials, but one issue of "21st Science & Technology" attempted to prove a correlation betwixt receiving treatment for Hepatitis-B and the subsequent contraction of AIDS several months later and attempting to say this was how it was introduced. I do not support such a viewpoint, but just had to purchase it to keep it in my library of ridiculous literature. >Molecular biology as it exists *today* could not be used to design such an >entity de novo. While we know an incredible amount about HIV, particularly >considering the time frame, we still do not fully understand the interactions >of molecules that, for example, keep the virus in a latent state. We are not >even sure if we know about *all* of them, let along how they might interact >with the myriad of cellular factors that are available to it. There seems to be a common theme in the history of development of things: once something thought "impossible" has been demonstrated to be feasible, no matter what it was, everyone else seems able to do it, even /s the "inside information". I think this line of reasoning could also apply to AIDS. i.e. I find it hard to believe some fiendish scientist(s) somehow devised this bug, yet the rest of the talent in the world cannot undo it. I just happened to think of an example to my assertion: nuclear fission, atomic weapons, etc. It was theorized, but no one could make it work. Once it was proven and announced, others followed suit, armed only /c the knowledge it COULD be done. While not 'a posteriori' evidence, I think the trend is concrete enough to continue to this day.