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From: s37755c@taltta.hut.fi (Jochen Grandell)
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Subject: Winter War aircraft  Re: Mig-29 operated by Iraq
Message-ID: <1991Jan23.035641.4362@cbnews.att.com>
Date: 23 Jan 91 03:56:41 GMT
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From: s37755c@taltta.hut.fi (Jochen Grandell)
In article <1991Jan22.015450.20374@cbnews.att.com> fiddler@Eng.Sun.COM (Steve Hix) writes:
>
>During the Winter War, the Finns *were* flying modern (well, the Brewster
>Buffalo was fairly modern) monoplanes against Russian biplanes such as the
>Tchaika.

	I have some statistics about the equipment of the Finnish Airforce
	in the beginning of the Winter war and then compared to the situation 
	after the last day of the war.

	Aircraft type:		number 1.12.1939	number 15.3.1940
	----------------------------------------------------------------
	Bristol Bulldog			10			-
	Fokker D XXI			36			25
	Gloster Gladiator		-			13
	Fiat G 50			-			23
	Morane Saulnier-409		-			23
	Brewster-239			-			6
	Hawker Hurricane		-			10
	Blackburn Ripon			15			6
	Junkers				7			3
	Fokker C V E (D)		7 			6
	Fokker C X			29			16
	Bristol Blenheim		16			19

	So those Brewster Buffalos did we have 0 when the war broke out and
	managed to buy some (6) before peace. Too pity they just arrived 
	to Finland after the war so we didn't have much use of them. The 
	Hurricanes from Britain also reached us only one week before peace.
	As I'm not an expert on warplanes from WWII , I must admit that I 
	don't know anything about most of those planes listed above.

	What comes to casualties, here are some figures:

	Finland lost totally destroyed  62  airplanes
		     damaged 		36

	USSR  lost   totally destroyed  509 airplanes
	             damaged(or destr.) 451
	also the Swedish volunteer Regiment shot down 12 soviet planes.

	Even if the difference between soviet vs. Finnish casualties is
	big, they are known to be quite accurate. Even the Soviet side 
	has more or less approved these figures. At least it's not like
	the Iraqi propaganda;)
	
	If someone is interested I could post a longer article about the 
	Finnish Airforce and its function during the Winter War.

	Jochen


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