Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: eachus@aries.mitre.org (Robert I. Eachus) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: F-14 vs. F-15 vs. F-16 (was Re: Mig-29 operated by Iraq) Message-ID: <1991Jan24.034825.21502@cbnews.att.com> Date: 24 Jan 91 03:48:25 GMT References: <1991Jan15.021838.23936@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: The Mitre Corp., Bedford, MA. Lines: 34 Approved: military@att.att.com Full-Name: Linus's News From: eachus@aries.mitre.org (Robert I. Eachus) In article <1991Jan21.041637.5577@cbnews.att.com> martens@cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens) writes: In article <1991Jan19.043412.6425@cbnews.att.com> anthony@batserver.cs.uq.oz.au (Anthony Lee) writes: >Sorry to disagree but I think the F14 is more maneuverable then you think. >Back in the early days of the F15s, the Navy F14s used to regularly >beat the F15s in dogfight simulations. More recently (say 3 years ago) a friend of mine who flew F-15s for the USAF claimed that, all other things being equal, an F-15 can almost always beat an F-14 in a dogfight, and an F-16 will almost always beat an F-15. By "almost always," he said he meant "15 of 16 times." He is right but...All other things frequently aren't equal, in this case the experience of the pilots. Since aircraft carriers at sea almost always have CAP aircraft aloft, F-14 pilots get LOTS of practice time compared to F15 drivers. Also Navy pilots tend to spend more of their careers in cockpits, so both of the above statements are probably right. However, with the current goings on in the Persian Gulf, this should even out very quickly. (Although the F-16, F/A-18 and F-15E pilots may spend a lot of time hauling freight while their buddies fly CAP.) -- Robert I. Eachus Our troops will have the best possible support in the entire world. And they will not be asked to fight with one hand tied behind their back. President George Bush, January 16, 1991