Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnewse!cbnewsd!cbfsb!cbnewsc!cbnews!cbnews!military From: tkogoma%triton.unm.edu@ariel.unm.edu (Gym Z. Quirk) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Rifles grunts love (ak-47, uzi) was 'using rifle..prev. war' Message-ID: <1991Jan25.030747.9355@cbnews.att.com> Date: 25 Jan 91 03:07:47 GMT References: <1991Jan21.040658.4865@cbnews.att.com> <1991Jan24.043239.25361@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque NM Lines: 32 Approved: military@att.att.com From: tkogoma%triton.unm.edu@ariel.unm.edu (Gym Z. Quirk) In article <1991Jan24.043239.25361@cbnews.att.com> quan@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Suu Quan) writes: >I was a small man weighing 94Lbs, so I did not re-use the AK-47s we captured : >it weighs considerably too much for a small infantery man to >carry a long distance. I carried an American made Carbine. don't remember >the code name nor the model, but it was light. But AK-47's bullets are >heavier and larger in diameter (more lethal, makes more damage to the body). > >That's all I can remember. > >[mod.note: Sounds to me like either an M1 or M2 carbine. The actual >bullet is .30 cal, about the same diameter as the AK's 7.62 round, but >the cartridge of the Russian round is a bit bigger in diameter. - Bill ] Maybe the "shorty-16"? Take a standard M-16, cut the barrel down, and replace the stock with a folding one. Designations I've seen are CAR-15 and M-177. According to what I've read, it was capable of firing standard 5.56N rounds and using standard M-16 clips. The same weapon has been rechambered to fire 9mm Parabellum rounds and is called the "Colt SMG". I think it is in use with the FBI and other Federal Law-enforcement agencies. But then, I'm just a lonely Trekkie who reads the odd book on military history for yucks... -- Capt. Gym Z. Quirk net.torrorist (reformed) | THIS SPACE FOR RENT tkogoma@triton.cirt.unm.edu | (until I can find (Known to some as Taki Kogoma) | a decent quote.)