Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnewse!cbnewsd!cbfsb!cbnewsc!cbnews!cbnews!military From: smpod@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Stefan) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: F-14 vs. F-15 vs. F-16 (was Re: Mig-29 operated by Iraq) Message-ID: <1991Jan25.031906.11201@cbnews.att.com> Date: 25 Jan 91 03:19:06 GMT References: <1991Jan15.021838.23936@cbnews.att.com> <1991Jan17.053752.29563@cbnews.att.com> <1991Jan19.043412.6425@cbnews.att.com> <1991Jan21.041637.5577@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 17 Approved: military@att.att.com From: smpod@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Stefan) In article martens@cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens) writes... \\Sorry to disagree but I think the F14 is more maneuverable then you think. \\Back in the early days of the F15s, the Navy F14s used to regularly \\beat the F15s in dogfight simulations. \More recently (say 3 years ago) a friend of mine who flew F-15s for \the USAF claimed that, all other things being equal, an F-15 can \almost always beat an F-14 in a dogfight, and an F-16 will almost \always beat an F-15. By "almost always," he said he meant "15 of 16 \times." Some time ago, I talked to a F16 pilot who was a Red Flag instructor who said that he had no trouble in beating the F14 and Harrier, the F15 was a little more difficult and the F/A 18 was the most difficult.